replace exception rule by Incubator status#1026
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In addition to @mbuechse 's comment: With the points we get rid of the voting, since I see the voting as one of the primary culprits of the original proposal as well. The decision should lie in the attestation body and with the proposed variant upon points, this would work nicely. |
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I tried to incorporate what we had discussed in the SIG. I think the name "Incubator" should be reconsidered. |
i concur. Reading it like "SCS-Certified IaaS Incubator" does not really make sense. Apprentice ;)
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Many thanks to both of you, especially @mbuechse for incorporating what was discussed in the SIG. Based on this, I tried to make further adjustments:
My two cents for a better name than "Incubator":
The actual certification process could be described as implementation hints in the Supplement w2. Also with the additions proposed in the SIG, with the three stages of "self-assessment", "codified checks" and "audit". However, this would still require specific plausibility checks and statistics. |
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Couple of thoughts: By having several levels of SCS-Certified IaaS it becomes more complex to comprehend for outsiders, thats why I kinda liked the different naming. “SCS-certified IaaS Integrator” is simple and easily understood. But maybe this discussion / the course of discussion since September shows that we need this added "complexity" in order to address the needs adequately. The second thought: we just certified four companies with ‘SCS-certified IaaS Integrator’ and renaming this would mean that this has to be adjusted as well. |
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We can say that "Silver" (and above) MAY be omitted, so as to remain backwards-compatible. |
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I tried to incorporate our latest proposal regarding certificate levels and the points mentioned in the last SIG Std/Cert on 2025-12-02. |
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Regarding the open question "How to allow implementation partners who are very knowledgeable, but will never meet the requirements of Integrator to become certified?" Version 2 of this standard intentionally does not consider this question. It should rather be a separate new standard like "Certified SCS Consultant". The other two open issues are addressed in the current draft, see supplement. |
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During the presentation at the Forum SCS-Standards regular call on 2025-12-12 the issue was raised that the current naming system using certificate levels (aka "Certified SCS IaaS Bronze Integrator") is too long: These were the suggestion so far:
What we are looking for: A shorter name/term that clearly expresses that it is an entry-level/lower level certification to the "normal" SCS Integrator. |
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I could review this. At a quick glance, I don't see any severe problems. Before I give it more scrutiny, I think we should be clear regarding the naming inside the certificate zoo. |
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@janiskemper Your comments appear to be valid objections. I have added this to the next SIG Std/Cert on 2026-02-12 to discuss it. If you can, please join the meeting. |
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noted |
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As a timeline for this PR, I'd like to see this PR being merged before March 10th, so that at the Forum's Meeting of March 10th this can be presented so that we can stabilize it afterwards. |
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I think this PR is ready to merge. We have fixed the remaining certificate naming issue and also the possible confusion with scope levels by using the term "tier" now. @janiskemper If you are ok with my suggestions in the open conversations, please close them and let's merge it :) |
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
Signed-off-by: Matthias Büchse <matthias.buechse@alasca.cloud>
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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Signed-off-by: Matthias Büchse <matthias.buechse@alasca.cloud>
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Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
Signed-off-by: Marvin Frommhold <depressiveRobot@users.noreply.github.com>
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@depressiveRobot can you create issues / PRs based on these open conversations? I intentionally leave them open so that we don't forget about it. I'm totally fine with not adding them to this PR of course. |
| - two points for each SCS-compliant IaaS public-cloud environment with at least two regions or at least three availability zones being operated by the applicant for the last 12 months, one point for 6 months. | ||
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In my opinion there should also be a way to solve the chicken-egg-problem for the integrator status. As SCS is basically having the technical skills to provide and administer OpenStack, I would add the following:
| - two points for each SCS-compliant IaaS public-cloud environment with at least two regions or at least three availability zones being operated by the applicant for the last 12 months, one point for 6 months. | |
| - two points for each SCS-compliant IaaS public-cloud environment with at least two regions or at least three availability zones being operated by the applicant for the last 12 months, one point for 6 months. | |
| - up to two points, one for each [Certified OpenStack Administrator](https://www.openstack.org/coa/) in the company of the applicant. | |
Resolves #1024
There are still some open questions:
"Certified SCS Engineer/Consultant/Trainer"
Show differences between v1 and v2:
Procedural:
Supplement: