OFDMA and resets in vCMTS/CMTS. #291
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Here is my follow-up. My line is now worse then ever. I had a tech here day before yesterday and ran a temp cable and measured with a older Viavi Solutions (limited to 1300/1300 and seem to lack a lot of features to check for Solar/EV chargers. Direct cable from Remote-PHY: My guess is that Tele2 have messed up the configuration in Harmonics vCMTS. (Profiles for the modems) The tool the tech used shows values in dBµV and the modem shows dBmV. It showed 99.8 dBµV (AI told me that is 39.8 dBmV) I have gone WAAAY further with this. I have contacted Viavi Solutions and also Harmonic Inc for support. Correctable goes up to 8500 and then the soft reset happens and this is done by Harmonic vCMTS according to AI. DOCSight – DOCSIS Cable Connection Status ReportContextThis is a status report from a DOCSIS cable modem generated by DOCSight.
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Reference Values (Vodafone Kabel Deutschland)Downstream Power (dBmV)
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Hey, interesting case. I've been thinking about your numbers since your first post and did some reading on OFDMA power reporting in Remote PHY setups. The 86-87 dBmV on your OFDMA channels jumped out at me. That's way beyond what any CM should physically transmit. For context, DOCSIS 3.1 OFDMA upstream typically tops out around 50 dBmV even in worst-case scenarios. So either the modem is genuinely overdriving (which would likely damage the transmitter over time), or the value is not what it appears to be. What got me digging was the mismatch with your tech's Viavi reading. 39.8 dBmV at the RPD vs 86 dBmV on the modem UI is too large to be explained by cable loss alone. After looking into it, I think there's a real chance the modem firmware is reporting OFDMA power differently than SC-QAM power. In multi-vendor R-PHY deployments (Harmonic CableOS + whatever CM chipset you have), the way OFDMA total power vs per-subcarrier power is exposed can vary. Some modems report aggregate channel power for OFDMA while showing per-carrier for ATDMA, which makes the OFDMA number look impossibly high in comparison. That doesn't mean there's no problem. The resets, channel flapping (your US count bouncing between 4 and 5), and the correctable error pattern clearly show upstream instability. But the cause might not be "power too high" in the literal sense. It could be:
A few things that would help narrow it down:
Good call on contacting Harmonic directly. If they can pull the CableOS logs for your CM MAC, they can see exactly what profiles the vCMTS is pushing and whether the modem is failing ranging. On the DOCSight side, your case is good feedback. Right now it just flags the raw value as critically high, but for OFDMA specifically I should add a sanity check that flags values like 86 dBmV as a suspected reporting anomaly rather than treating it purely as a power issue. Will look into that. Keep the exports coming if you can, they're useful for improving the diagnostics. |
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Thank you so much Dennis for spending a lot of time on this!! What AI told me was "DOCSIS 3.1. Max 50–53 dBmV with Extended Upstream (ECo)" and also makes it very clear that my 86 dBmV is clearly a incorrect configuration in vCMTS from Tele2's side. I'm guessing a tech saw a picture from a onsite tech and that screenshot is dBµV and then inputted it into a dBmV field (or CLI). i did go to three other apartment complexes where i live and the three people i convinced to check had around 99 dBmV. 99 dBµV. 99 dBµV is 39 dBmV. That would be "fine". But this is just a guess from my side so far. Tech did both tests at RPD and in my apartment with "Teleste 4TS210 (-10db)" and after that a "Teleste 4TS212 (-12dB)" and my on the old cable (that is right up against Solar and EV cables) going up to my apartment and the apartment above mine is a "Teleste 4API108" and the outlet itself is a "Teleste 4APF302" The apartment above mine still have a old 5-1000MHz outlet.
DOCSight – DOCSIS Cable Connection Status ReportContextThis is a status report from a DOCSIS cable modem generated by DOCSight.
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Downstream Channels
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Events (Last 48h)
Speedtest Results (Last 10)
Cross-Source CorrelationSpeedtest performance correlated with modem signal health at the time of each test.
Reference Values (Vodafone Kabel Deutschland)Downstream Power (dBmV)
Upstream Power (dBmV)
SNR / MER (dB, absolute)
Uncorrectable Errors: Tolerated >= 1.0%, Critical >= 3.0% QuestionsPlease analyze this data and provide:
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@itsDNNS AI just explained what we missed.. Issue: Sagemcom DOCSIS 3.1 modem (Tele2 network) displays 86 dBmV upstream power on OFDMA channel while showing symbol rate = 0 ksym/s (inactive). Table Data: text Root Cause Analysis: |
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Tele2 is ghosting me and also Primär (field tech's). Tele2 have now removed a OFDMA channel and values got a lot worse also for ATDMA. I just wish i was able to move away from this. I have talked to PTS and Telekområdgivarna today and they just told me to contact ARN (The National Board for Consumer Disputes). DOCSight – DOCSIS Cable Connection Status ReportContextThis is a status report from a DOCSIS cable modem generated by DOCSight.
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Cross-Source CorrelationSpeedtest performance correlated with modem signal health at the time of each test.
Reference Values (Vodafone Kabel Deutschland)Downstream Power (dBmV)
Upstream Power (dBmV)
SNR / MER (dB, absolute)
Uncorrectable Errors: Tolerated >= 1.0%, Critical >= 3.0% QuestionsPlease analyze this data and provide:
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I'm starting to feel sick.. Tele2 have now removed my OFDMA so now i get 66mbit upload... I should get between 600-1200mbit.. DOCSight – DOCSIS Cable Connection Status ReportContextThis is a status report from a DOCSIS cable modem generated by DOCSight.
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Events (Last 6h)
Speedtest Results (Last 3)
Cross-Source CorrelationSpeedtest performance correlated with modem signal health at the time of each test.
Reference Values (Vodafone Kabel Deutschland)Downstream Power (dBmV)
Upstream Power (dBmV)
SNR / MER (dB, absolute)
Uncorrectable Errors: Tolerated >= 1.0%, Critical >= 3.0% QuestionsPlease analyze this data and provide:
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Man that sucks. Really curious what the authority ends up telling you though - keep us posted on that. |
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Today i got all from Tele2 NOC and he can now see that DS is fine but something is wrong with US. But when i asked about OFDMA being WAAAAY to high with 86 dBmV he told me that it could be related to a big coax net but we are only 14 on this Harmonic Oyster so that is not it.. But ha asked me to run PingPlotter for 24h and he added a probe on my modem and he will be calling tomorrow to check in. But he also said that a field tech might need to come and use a real probe to test US and find out what could be the reason. This is the latest report from my modem. DOCSight – DOCSIS Cable Connection Status ReportContextThis is a status report from a DOCSIS cable modem generated by DOCSight.
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Downstream Channels
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Speedtest Results (Last 3)
Cross-Source CorrelationSpeedtest performance correlated with modem signal health at the time of each test.
Reference Values (Vodafone Kabel Deutschland)Downstream Power (dBmV)
Upstream Power (dBmV)
SNR / MER (dB, absolute)
Uncorrectable Errors: Tolerated >= 1.0%, Critical >= 3.0% QuestionsPlease analyze this data and provide:
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Wednesday Tele2 NOC told me he would call back on Thursday, but I haven’t heard anything since. At this point I’m convinced the issue has two parts:
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I have been at it for days with Perplexity Pro and have gotten quite far to actually understand why my internet goes out a bunch of times per day. According to AI this is related to my missing OFDMA. "US Power" is far to high. It's around 90dBmV and should be under 50 dBmV for DOCSIS 3.1. I have included that my ISP use "Harmonic Oyster Low-Power DAA Node" and according to AI then the vCMTS/CMTS will reset connection and this explains why i get dropouts. Smokeping also confirm's this.
Have anyone else had similar experiences?
DOCSight – DOCSIS Cable Connection Status Report
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This is a status report from a DOCSIS cable modem generated by DOCSight.
DOCSIS (Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification) is the standard for internet over coaxial cable.
Analyze this data and provide insights about connection health, problematic channels, and recommendations.
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Summary
Downstream Channels
Upstream Channels
Events (Last 48h)
Speedtest Results (Last 10)
Cross-Source Correlation
Speedtest performance correlated with modem signal health at the time of each test.
Reference Values (Vodafone Kabel Deutschland)
Downstream Power (dBmV)
Upstream Power (dBmV)
SNR / MER (dB, absolute)
Uncorrectable Errors: Tolerated >= 1.0%, Critical >= 3.0%
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