Future plans?

[hyprdia]

The spec repository has been inactive for almost/more than two years. It begs the question: will this ever see the light of day? Or, is there even an intention to bring it there or all plans have been dropped? Just curious as I am approaching the moment where I will need to make a final decision on using this spec or not (forking it might also be an option depending on the intentions here...). Any thoughts? Insights?

There is three pending pull requests, I was also interested to know what are the plans regarding Actions with explicit target, if applicable...

Thank you!

[tpluscode]

Thank you for reaching out.

There have been many idea for going forward but eventually personal reasons and difficulties in reaching an agreement over numerous issues caused progress to stall. At least that's how I see it.

That said, hydra has always been a go-to API tool for me personally and the company I work with alike. I would totally like to see this become active again, maybe in the form of a living spec.

Another problem I think has been haunting us was the lack of practical drivers. Many ideas were quite theoretical and seemed to me not rooted enough in real life issues and solutions.

At this point a fork is something to consider too, if we would intend to sever the ties to W3C group. Not sure what others would think

[elf-pavlik]

FYI, the Solid CG is working with the W3C Team on PROPOSED Linked Web Storage Working Group Charter. All the experience in incubating and implementing the Hydra draft could be valuable input. It has been some time since I participated in the Hydra CG, but I would like to refresh my understanding of the current draft and look at how work incubated in the Hydra CG could contribute to the proposed Linked Web Storage WG.
If someone is interested, I would also be happy to help organize a joined Solid CG & Hydra CG call.

[hyprdia]

Thank you all for your responses.

@elf-pavlik I looked at the links you shared and I don't see any mention of an hypermedia format being developed. Is there any plans to create an hypermedia media type as part of Solid/Linked Web Storage? That would be interesting.

@tpluscode I would also like to see this active again. I don't see any alternative JSON-LD hypermedia format and this one was quite close to completion. My bandwidth is quite limited but I would like to continue maintaining/improving this specification. There is the question of where to host the developments in the future, is it possible to just take over this repository or everything has to move somewhere else? I am not quite familiar with the W3C process, but if there is no intention to continue this, then I think the only option is to sever the ties to W3C group, unless we want to continue the work under their umbrella. I am basically open to any solution but I would prefer to keep the work on this in the open, under W3C or just in public repo. What do you mean by "living spec"?

[asbjornu]

I too would love to see some movement here. Who needs poking? :)

[elf-pavlik]

LWS still collects Prior Art w3c/lws-protocol#18
I find more recent TREE and LDES possibly providing some helpful input, I also have been suggesting to one of the WG members Hydra Iri Templates to address his requirement which looks similar to what Webfinger does.

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I too would love to see some movement here. Who needs poking? :)

On Sep 3rd there will be Community Council meeting focused on moving various work from CGs forward https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/29a19815-57f8-488a-8e14-9b5809bf14de/

[alien-mcl]

There is a PR waiting to be reviewed and merged which should make the spec complete in my opinion at version 1.0.

Unfortunately, the community was effectively dead which just made my last efforts to have it completed and closed bit futile. I can merge that PR in question once someone approves (I hesitated to do it all by myself - I just felt it was not the right thing to do - it's a community after all).

[asbjornu]

@alien-mcl if it's #243 you're referring to, I approved that PR almost exactly 3 years ago. 😄 But you are perhaps awaiting approval from @tpluscode? Seems like he has moved on to other pastures, so a rejig of the chairing and setup according to the Community Council meeting @elf-pavlik refers to, might be a good idea. 😊